Choreographing an entire set for what will likely be one of the biggest, if not the biggest, tours of 2020? And doing it without your star, your dancers or a dance studio? No big deal if you’re Richy Jackson, who is hard at work prepping the launch of Lady Gaga’s Chromatica Ball, 13 years after the pair first met and began working together. You know the moves. From “Just Dance” to “Bad Romance” to “Born This Way” to “Applause” to “Rain On Me,” Jackson has worked with the Italian girl from New York in crafting the “walk walk” that moves the “fashion baby.”

In this interview, Richy Jackson reflects on his journey and the bygone era of pop stars he witnessed in his youth, details choreographing some of Gaga’s most iconic moves and discusses why there’s more to JoJo Siwa than meets the eye.

Read the full interview here.